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Post by tileman2 on Dec 18, 2015 17:13:42 GMT -6
Okay Arnie- the picture changed my mind about striking: but still like it the other way as well. The crystal formation and pattern effect of the layered glaze in the center of the bowl is most intriguing.
Tom
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Post by evan cornish-keefe on Dec 19, 2015 12:47:04 GMT -6
Tom, If you take a click back from the Stull map, there's some other good links here: www.mattanddavesclays.com/Science/ScienceHome.htmlThat glaze calc link is a few years out of date and may not match current material chemistry? I'm starting to test clays as well.... Arnie, I think that glaze calc class is worth every penny of interest that I owe the US dept. of education.
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Post by mohawkpiper on Dec 20, 2015 22:24:06 GMT -6
Arnie, Whereas most of my glazes seem to give fewer crystals where it is thicker, I do have a few that do the opposite. Just a curiosity I guess. So far two glazes, shown below. For all these shown I know I still need to back off the zinc a bit. It will come with enough iterations. I think it is the second iteration for the pastel one, and the first for both the greys. For the pastel I do believe it just needs less zinc. For the greys I believe it needs something more than just less zinc. Thinner application perhaps? Meltier glaze maybe? I am not sure. There was a third grey one I am going to refire, with less zinc of course, and see what happens. G
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Post by Arnie Benton on Dec 21, 2015 13:00:45 GMT -6
Hi Greg - I've had the same experience - sometimes lots of crystals with thicker glazes - and I also looked over my pieces with the biggest individual crystals, and they are often on pieces with the thickest application of glaze - SO, that's why, whenever I post any results, I'm writing 'this is what I got' and in my mind I'm saying 'most of the time'.
Looking over your 3 bowls - 2 and 3 give me trouble because I keep inverting them in my mind - like I'm looking at the bottom of a piece, with a foot, and not from the top down, so I keep bending it in the other direction. Are the rims almost flat or sloping up or down? On the first piece, if the rim and first circle of brown/gold glaze are relatively flat and then there's a slope where the glaze runs off and into the center where it's thicker - I'd put both less glaze and less zinc - let the slope be almost clear of crystals - like in #2 but larger. Why is the ground bluish in #1? An engobe? I THINK I'd try without it - I'd probably reduce the zinc by 2 gms to start or down to 22 gms, at most - all of my pieces have between 20 and 22 gms of glaze and a half a gm makes a difference - but, going back to paragraph 1, not every time.
For a refire, I'd put a glaze with no more than 12 gms of zinc - probably come out with multitudes of tiny crystals - but my ability to predict is not very reliable.
I think you've got a great concept going -
Arnie
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Post by mohawkpiper on Dec 21, 2015 20:45:02 GMT -6
Hey Arnie, Thanks for the input! I do believe you had seen #1 already... that one has been around for a little while. The rims are almost flat. Very very slightly sloping upward at the outer edge. And then there is a slope. Like you said. Do these help? The second one is already gone... They all pretty much have this profile... #1... I do agree, less zinc and less glaze. The ground is bluish because that is just the color of the glaze. There is no engobe. It is reduced. It has a purply bluish color in the thinnest areas, a lighter grey blue color in the medium areas then a brown in the thickest areas (all the brown areas are completely covered in crystals on that piece in particular.) 2 grams more for next time sounds good. That one in particular is 2 grams down from the previous iteration and it made a significant change, but still has a ways to go. So again, I agree For a refire... This is the piece going back in... 12 grams seems pretty significant! I am amazed. You definitely have the experience, but I may not have the heart to go that low. I will try haha. The grey ones had initially 23.5 grams zinc... which is 2 grams down from how i put it on vertical. I knew I should have gone more than 2 but sometimes it's hard to take big steps haha! the silica is pretty low at 18...
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Post by Arnie Benton on Dec 22, 2015 13:10:56 GMT -6
Hi Greg -
You may be right - 12 gms Zn could be too little - but since you're applying more glaze on a bowl and don't want to make it too too thick, the new glaze has to have much less Zn in order to make an impact on the total glaze. Thanks for the profile pics - the bottoms look close to flat(?) - then likely the crystals in the center will look different than those on the slope - and the glaze from the slope will pile up around the flat center. The pieces I have pictured on previous pages have a slope to the center, so the crystals don't have the junction between flat and slope. So you want to put more on the top of the slope and less on the bottom of the slope and then treat the center like it's a plate, with glaze that won't move. Easier said than done, as you know! What did the first bowl look like unreduced? I assume the glaze is 'gold stuff'. I like them both - reduced and unreduced. Difference in the reflected light in the pictures - I like the lighter tones of the gray from the angle in the oblique shot.
Arnie
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Post by mohawkpiper on Dec 22, 2015 14:00:38 GMT -6
Hey Arnie, Thanks again for all the input. I don't know what the first bowl looks like unreduced. I've never done that glaze in oxidation. I don't really post fire reduce. I always reduce on the way down, even if I am reducing at lower temps.
Oblique... that is a word I haven't heard in a long time!
G
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Post by Arnie Benton on Dec 29, 2015 9:06:39 GMT -6
HI Greg - yeah, I had an uneasy feeling when I was typing it - like, where did that come from? But so many plates and bowls look really nice when viewed at an angle where the light is reflecting 'obliquely', and not straight back at the viewer.
From google search - synonyms for 'oblique' -
synonyms: slanting, slanted, sloping, at an angle, angled, diagonal, aslant, slant, slantwise, skew, askew, cater-cornered, kitty-corner "an oblique line"
Arnie
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Post by sherri on Jan 1, 2016 23:47:38 GMT -6
I just read an article in the May edition of Ceramics Monthly where Richard Hensley varied a recipe swaping out 1/3 to 1/2 of the silica in a recipe and swaped it out with Imsil Silica which completely eliminated crazing. See the "Unusual Crystal Forms" thread where I just posted with more Info. about that. I hope that all is well. Happy New Year!!!
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