nick
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Post by nick on Nov 6, 2017 1:44:40 GMT -6
Hello all,
I'm relatively new to crystalline glazes, and was interested in trying out an inclusion stain in my next firing.
I was wondering if anyone had any experience with them, and how they applied them. Supposedly you can put them on as a slip on greenware, or include them directly in the glaze, and I'm not sure which would work better with crystalline glaze.
Any help is appreciated, thanks!
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BillC
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Post by BillC on Nov 6, 2017 8:26:24 GMT -6
For reds it seems the best way to make it work is to add it to a slip. Probably a slip made from the same clay as the body. Add the stain, about 15% or so and bisque. you may need more stain, however. When this is sprayed over your pot let it dry. Glazes with titanium don't work well for reds. Most of the other stains aren't as fussy.
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Post by serian on Nov 6, 2017 8:57:51 GMT -6
The following picture is an example of an opaque glaze with titanium on a with stains red colored ground. As gumbodog has already said, the color of transparent glazes without titanium is naturally much better. But such an opaque glaze also has its charm when the color then shimmers through a little bit in the crystals:
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Kuba
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SztukKilka in Old Formu
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Post by Kuba on Nov 12, 2017 16:37:54 GMT -6
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Post by tileman2 on Nov 12, 2017 19:34:53 GMT -6
Serian: I find your piece to be very appealing to the eyes. You pulled off subtle shifts in pastels- not easy to do with crystalline.
Luba: exceptional work as usual.
Tom
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Post by mohawkpiper on Nov 13, 2017 13:01:35 GMT -6
Hi Nick, in my experience i did not like adding stains directly to the glaze. putting it in a slip and applying that slip to greenware or [ prefferably ] bisque works better. 15% is good for reds. Less for others. As seen already, titanium works fine with stains. I think it is believed that titanium kills the red stain but IMO it doesn't kill it. titanium is an opacifier so if enough titanium is added to the glaze it just opacifies the glaze making the red stain underneath hard to see. but it is still there. there is a point where enough titanium will block out the stain in the BG but not the crystals, then even more will block out the stain in the crystal too. good luck and have fun!
G
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timhanrahan
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Post by timhanrahan on Nov 15, 2017 20:44:41 GMT -6
Nice stuff. I especially like Kuba's blue on brown BG, and Serian's subtle red mug. I guess I'll have to try some slips with stains. I'm assuming that you guys are just using generally available cone 10 stains?
Tim
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Post by mohawkpiper on Nov 16, 2017 0:29:44 GMT -6
yep. for red i like mason stain 6088.
add some iron to the glaze and maybe a little manganese or go with nickel instead of those two for blue crystals.
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Post by mohawkpiper on Nov 16, 2017 1:52:47 GMT -6
Here is one of my favorites with red stains...  Reduced titanium over red stain... not the best pic.. but u can see the red through the bg in the translucent parts at the bottom. With just a tiny little bit more titanium the same glaze does not show any red anymore... EDIT: does not show and red anymore in the BACKGROUND... but still does in the crystal. with even more titanium the red gets lost in the crystal too... i did a test with this glaze that shows that in a later firing... but i dont know which piece it was so it isnt shown here. END EDIT (third from left in the pic below...)  |
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