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Post by arek on Dec 7, 2016 6:27:56 GMT -6
Hello there I have some problem with bubbles. There are appear same times and only in some area, and I notice more when there is more loaded. It looks like the glaze has been boiled. Seems like hot spots to me. What do you think?
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Post by jfox on Dec 7, 2016 21:43:37 GMT -6
if you where way over fired you would get little or no crystals at all, id try dropping down about 10 degree after your cone goes down and holding about 10 or 12 minute soak
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Post by mariewright on Dec 8, 2016 6:21:22 GMT -6
Hi Arek,
The problem could also be your bisque fire. Perhaps you are not firing hot enough or long enough for good outgassing. It is thought that cone 05 or 04 are best for prep for crystallines. Personally, I fire to 1860 F and hold at top temp for 1/2 hour.
Bill C. Does not bisque fire his work at all and gets marvelous results, but for those of us who do, more heat work is often needed to avoid bubbles in the glaze fire.
Marie
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Post by jfox on Dec 8, 2016 9:29:09 GMT -6
i've been doing all single fire since 1973 which can give rise to bubbling with out the soaking and actually i slow the cooling down a little after the soak for the first 50 degrees
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2016 22:14:18 GMT -6
I don't have the experience with crystals that the others here do, but some time back I began generally bisque firing my ware to ^03 to ^02 with a particular schedule I got from Steve Davis at Aardvark Clay. He recommends a final temp climb of 108F/hour to 1922, which equals ^04, but I've found that a little hotter helps prevent dunting and bubbles. I spoke with Steve at length about some problems I was having, one of which was what you are experiencing, Arek. Steve said he has even gotten some agreement with Skutt techs on the subject of changing their recommendations. Since I started the modified firing schedule, I haven't had much problem with pinholing or bubbles. You can find a detailed explanation of his bisque schedule here. I have not followed his guidelines to the letter, specifically the part about using fire brick to prop the kiln lid open till 1650F, because it tends to stress the elements a bit more than I like, and the brick needs to be positioned precisely to keep the electronics from shutting down. But I've had pretty good luck modifying the schedule to 03 - 02, removing the top and bottom peep plugs. Anyway, take a look at it and see if you think it would seem to help.
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Post by arek on Jan 31, 2017 10:03:06 GMT -6
Hello everyone Thank all of you for your advises. After few test I discovered two important things: 1.Orton cone shows temperature 30*C higher than controller, 2. Bubbles issue was prosaic - iron from knife after final smoothing/compressing body. Because I am using white stoneware with grog, I am leaving a lot of knife on the surface. It was very visible, but it never affect the color and I ignored it. I think both of it together course the bobbles. I wonted to stay with my firing schedule, therefore I upgraded recipe and I am using wooden tools now so far no bubbles. Mariewright, you gave me idea about outgassing, but all your ideas to modified biscque temperature, I am sure, would help to "burn off" iron from the body. Thanks forum PS Always use cones! Control your kiln controller!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2017 10:43:47 GMT -6
Thank you for sharing that, Arek.
And by the way, if anyone has advice contrary to what I posted above concerning bisque firing, please say so. The schedule I created was tailored for wares to address bubbles and pinholes before I got more involved in crystalline work, even though it seems to work for that as well.
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Post by joerg on Feb 2, 2017 18:22:18 GMT -6
after / since the advice of a very experienced crystals friend some 5 years ago, I bisque at 1100° C / 2012° F "to avoid / minimize the alumina migration from body to glaze..." , so did Peter Ilsley, when we worked together for a few days in my studio here in Spain...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2017 21:32:43 GMT -6
Thanks for the corroboration, Joerg. That's right at where I've been firing bisque, but wasn't sure it was good for crystalline. However, the results and Peter Ilsley seem to vindicate that.
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